November 29, 2010Posted by on
Christian Music Zine’s own Cara Fisher recently made a call to Josh Dies and this is the result:
CMZ: Showbread has been partnered with Come&Live! for some time now, how is that working out?
Dies: It’s been really great. We had been talking to them for quite a while. Chad Johnson, the guy who started Come&Live!, was a friend of ours. He worked with us when we wereon Tooth & Nail, and he left to start Come&Live!. We knew for a while that once we finished our contract, it was something that would be ideal for us. So, they just set out to find a way to make and give away a free CD, and that’s exactly what we did.
CMZ: And that CD is Who Can Know It?. So is there an overall theme to the album?
Dies: Yeah, I think so. It’s not a concept record by any means, but it’s pretty dramatically heavy, I think. It has to do with knowing the unknowable or considering things that are unfathomable, in a way. I think like, you know, really heavy theological concepts andhow they affect us, philosophically. So it’s really a dense, heavy record concept. But that said, it definitely isn’t like you need a textbook to understand it or anything.
CMZ: Does the album art tie into the lyrical content?
Dies: Yeah, a guy named Peter Rollo designed the album cover. And I kind of described to him basically what I just said about the album conceptually, and he came up with this aesthetic, kind of this… the cover of the album with the guy – it basically looks like hishead is exploding- trying to contemplate all these heavy topics. We have a few different album covers because the album comes out in a few different editions and they all kind of expand upon that same concept that starts with the standard cover.
CMZ: Can you share the idea behind “Myth of a Christian Nation?”
Dies: Well, “Myth of Christian Nation” is basically about the misplaced idea that Christianity has some kind of connection to America, or that it has some connection to being patriotic; it’s about nationalism. Recently, Showbread has become more outspoken against a thing that we believe is a damaging idea within the church, the world church, that America is God’s country or, you know, being patriotic and being some kind of flag-waving political person has anything to do with being like Jesus. And I think that that song does not make any kind of polite statement about it; it’s very frustrated with the whole militant – eye foran eye, our way or the highway, let’s pass law to control the world – Christian agenda that goes on in America.
CMZ: Is there a particular song on the album that means the most to you?
Dies: Maybe it’s that one [“Myth of A Christian Nation”]. It changes all the time; it’s still so new. There’s a song called “You’re Like A Taxi” that everyone in the band likes as well. We’re so happy with it. We just the love the whole thing so much.
CMZ: What do you hope listeners take away from Who Can Know It?
Dies: Ideally, I would like for the average Joe, or Joette, to listen to it and think, think a lot. I think that the idea was that if there were believers who agreed with us and shared our kind of faith, that they would hear the album and they would be stirred to thought, they would be edified, they would be encouraged and be challenged. But more so, if people hear it who don’t necessarily share our viewpoint, that they would be searched, but not necessarily in some kind of agenda to sneak in there with a message and convert them, oranything like that. But just that people would genuinely give consideration to topics that have to do with Jesus and have to do with Christianity that maybe they didn’t think about before.
CMZ: Every Showbread album has had a considerably different sound. Is that simply a result of line-up changes? Or do you purposely set out to do something totallydifferent with each record?
Dies: We totally set out to do something different every time. At first we just took it for granted, it was like finish one record and start another one, and it just didn’t come outsounding like the other one because no one wanted to make the same record twice. ButI think once we did that with the transition from the first to the second record and like everyone who listened to it was like, “Woah, what’d they do? This is so terrible. I can’t believe it.” And we really enjoyed challenging listeners. It sounds kind of smug, and I don’t mean it that way at all. But there is some bit of pleasure to be derived from, not necessarily disappointing people, but when somebody expects something and you’re just not willing to play to their comfort level, so you do something completely different. I think that the small number of people who really like us appreciate that about us and thecasual listeners are either forced to appreciate it or just leave. It’s experimental and it’svery fun.
CMZ: So Showbread is doing a free tour next year? Can you talk a little bit about that?
Dies: Yes, when we set out to raise money to fund the album, we were very blessed and had kind of an over-pouring of support from people. So we thought, what in the world are we going to do with all of this? We decided that maybe we could make the tour to support the record free as well. So herein, early next year we’re going to do a full-length national tour, and it’s just like any other tour except for you can come and you do not have to pay anything at all.